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ran well. i give my thanks to commissioner davis and the cambridge police force, watertown police force, m.i.t. police force, you all did incredible work. a and, mom, dad, joe, my heart goes out to you. i hope you find some solace in this moment of extreme grief looking around this field and listening to what is being said and written in response to the people of this country and around the world about your son. no child should predecease their parents. and although every loss is
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different, one thing is certain i know from experience, the sense of dread that reliving the moment in the last nine days almost hourly of the moment you learn the fate of your child. the sense of hollowness, you feel like you're being sucked into a void that you can't control. i remember. as i said, i know there's nothing anyone can say or do to bring you solace, but i also know from experience. as i said to you in the tent, the moment will come when that thing that triggers the memory of sean, that moment, whether it's a song or a season or a holiday or passing a little league field, whatever it is,
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you'll know it's going to be okay when the first instinct is you get a smile to your lips before you get a tear to your eye. it's impossible to fathom that that will occur, but i promise you, i guarantee you, it will. you are an incredible family. i watched brothers and sisters on "today" show on monday, you gave me hope and brought me and millions of others to tears. you painted a vivid picture of your brother so everyone could understand. what stuck with me the most probably hundreds of stories that have been told and written about since sean's death was when you were -- i believe it was at a restaurant and he
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turned to you, mom, and said there's a lady crying over there. you're a nurse. go talk to her. go talk to her. from what i've learned since then that's who he has been his whole life. that's why he did what he did with the students on campus. that's why of all the things i've read not knowing sean the one that struck home the most to me, mr. president, was the student who was quoted as saying "he loved us and we loved him." it's not a surprise, james, that they may have loved him, but to love him because they knew he loved them. what a remarkable son. what a remarkable brother. i've known the colliers my whole life and today's the first time
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i met them. i grew up in the same neighborhood. i was telling them that like a lot of you have a badge shield pinned on. my neighborhood you either became a firefighter, a cop, a priest or you joined the trades. i wasn't capable of any of them, so i ended up where i am. but i know you. i know you. you have been -- you're among the men and women i most admire. i have worked with you my entire career as a lawyer, serving as a senator for 36 years and now. in my view what people don't understand sometimes about all
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of you is that every one of you in spite of what the chief said joined the force, became a law enforcement officer, for the same underlying reason, you felt a sense of obligation. you thought you could help. you all had that sort of inexplicable sense of duty and gross underestimation of your value and how important you are. that's the single element i think that runs through all of american law enforcement. when events like this occur, the nation is always reminded of your bravery, but unfortunately having attended so many funerals and memorial services for law enforcement officers in my career, i not only think of your
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bravery, the first thoughts i have are your families. because every day when you get up and pin on that shield and walk out that door, your husband, your wife, your mother, your father, your brother, your sister, they know -- they know it's nagging that anything could happen. yet they stand with you. they support you. and they have the courage to encourage you to do what you do. so i want to thank not only sean's family for their willingness to support their brother, their son taking on this work, but all of your husbands and wives, fathers and mothers and children, we owe you so much more than just honoring you on days of grief and
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celebrati celebration. there's a line from an english poet he said "they also serve who only stand and wait." your families, they stand and wait with the knowledge that anything can happen. they live with it every day. you never know when you get that call to walk up that three-story walkup to break up a domestic fight or pull someone over in a routine traffic stop or sitting, standing watch on a campus of one of the most prestigious universities in the world. you're a different breed.
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so are your families. i salute, i admire, what you do on behalf of all of us every day. thank you for standing in line between our families and danger every single solitary day. you know, i get asked like my colleagues almost every day since 9/11 why. why? why? this terrorist phenomenon the beginning of the 21st century, why? people say to me for they surely know they can never defeat us. they can never overthrow us. they can never occupy us. so why? why? whether it's al qaeda central or
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two twisted perverted cowardly knock-off jihadists here in boston. why do they do what they do? i've thought about it a lot because i deal with it a lot. and i've come to the conclusion it is not unique to me but they do it so instill fear, to have us in the name of our safety and security what we value the most and what the world most values about us, our open society, our system of justice that guarantees freedom, the access of all americans to opportunity, the free flow of information and
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people across this country, our transparency. that's their target. it infuriates them that we refuse to bend, refuse to change, refuse to yield to fear. the doctrine of hate and oppression, they've found out cannot compete the values of openness and inclusiveness. and that's why they're losing around the world. the irony is we read about these events, we experience them. but the truth is on every frontier terrorism as a weapon is losing. it is not gaining adherence.
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and what galls them the most is america does remain that shining city on the hill. we're a symbol of the hopes and dreams of the very aspirations of people all around the world, people who live where they thrive. our very existence makes a lie of their perverted ideology. so the only way they can gain ground is to instill fear that causes us so jedisen our values, our way of life, for us to chan change, the moment we change, the moment we look inward, the moment we get on a crouch on our
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defensive, that's the moment when they win. what makes me so proud of this great state and the city of boston and cambridge and all those involved and the students on this campus, what makes me so proud to be an american is that we have not yielded to our fears. we have not compromised our values. we have not weakened our instituti constitutional guarantees. we have not closed our borders. just look around this field at the student body here. just listen to the accents of the president and vice president, this is a diverse campus. probably the greatest technological university in the world, it's black, it's white, it's muslim, it's christian, it's jewish, it's hindu.
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that's who we are. you represent every community in the world. and what do you do? you challenge your orthodox as they try to impose it. you push the envelope. you know that no change can come without jettison in the past, you're on the edge of science and technology. you make no distinction between the competence of male and female. you are their worst nightmare. all the things these perverted jihadis, self-made or organized,
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all the things they fear. the students that are here, i promise you these events since 9/11 will not write the history of this century or this nation. they will be a mere chapter in the journey of the history of this country because we will not change. and they will not marginalize us. they, they will eventually be marginalized. what the world saw was 264 people injured, three beautiful decent people lost in the marathon. an 8-year-old boy, a chinese student, a 29-year-old woman. and the world saw -- they saw
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all who were there to celebrate who were hurt, injured and damaged. and then they saw two days later this wonderful kid, amazing kid, 26 years old lose his life. that's part of what they saw. what they also saw the incredible heroism, commitment and resilience of the people of boston, the people of cambridge, of the american people. oh, we have suffered. we are grieving. but we are not bending. we will not yield to fear. we will not hunker down. we will not be intimidated. when the world trade towers were taken down on that horrible day, the city said we will never
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build another one. we built one taller. an absolute defiance. when bin laden struck there were those who said we'll never follow him. we said we will follow him to the gates of hell if necessary, and we did. if the purpose of terrorism is to instill fear, you saw none of it here in boston. boston, you sent a powerful message to the world. but also they saw was people running to the site of the explosion. as i watched it, i had the same view of everyone else in the country. why were those people finishing
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the marathon in a sprint? why? to head to the hospital, some to operate, most to give blood. there wasn't a second thought. it wasn't like let's sit around and think what we can do. it was instinctive. it's what you formidably speaking you ran to the carnage instead of racing away from it. what you did was look up to help your friends and neighbors and complete strangers in the middle of chaos. let me tell you this, even though i am not a bostonian, i am absolutely certain that next year's boston marathon will be bigger, more spectacular and tended by more people than any marathon in the history of the united states of america because
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that's who you are. [ applause ] and that's the message, that's the message that is heard in every corner and cave. those craven, misguided, perv t perverted apostles of a decent and honorable faith are hiding. boston will never yield. america will never yield. one of my favorite poets is shamou ss hanie. i know think i quote irish poets
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because i'm irish, that's not the reason why i do it. i quote irish poets because they're the best poets and that's the reason why. the collier family knows that, right? all kidding aside he wrote a po poem. and it stands in that poem that i think best defines the nature of the american spirit whether you are a newly minted citizen or your family's been here for eight generations, a stance that goes like this. he said history says don't hope on this side of the grave. but then once in a lifetime the longed for tidal wave of justice can rise up and hope in history rhyme. i think that sentiment is
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stamped into the dna of americans regardless of where they come from. ladies and gentlemen, it's who we are. it's who we are. it's who we've always been. just look at the journey of the history of this country. for us americans we believe that hope and history can rhyme. that's what separates us. the most compelling line in the famous documents that were written in the constitution of declaration and the one that sticks out to me most to form a more perfect union. the moment we stop is the moment we lose. so my message is embrace the memories of those beautiful people we lost in the bombing. stand by and help and support the hundreds who were injured
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and honor, honor this hero, sean, for what he was. remember him not merely for the sacrifice he made, but for the man he was. we irish have an expression, the highest praise you can give in my family, in my neighborhood, a man or a woman, is look at them and say he was a good man. this was a good man. the family, my prayers that god will bring you peace and healing. and may god bless all of you and most of all may god protect all of you first responders as you protect us. god bless you all. [ applause ]
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♪ you can play the game, you can act out in part though you know it wasn't written for you ♪ ♪ tell me how can you stand there with your broken heart all ashamed playing a fool ♪ ♪ with one thing you need to another it doesn't take any sacrifice ♪ ♪ oh, father and mother and sister and brother, if it feels nice don't think twice just
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shower the people you love with love ♪ show them the way ♪ things don't always turn out right, but if we will shower the people you love with love ♪ ♪ show them the way that you heal ♪ ♪ things are going to be much better if we only will ♪ ♪ you can run, but you cannot hi hide, this is widely known ♪ ♪ oh, what you plan to do with your foolish pride when you're all by yourself alone ♪ ♪ once you tell somebody the way
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you're feelin, you can feel it begin ♪ ♪ i think it's true what they say about how it always better to shower the people you love with love, show them the way that you heal ♪ ♪ oh, and things are going to be just fine ♪ ♪ shower the people you love with love ♪ ♪ show them the way you're feelin ♪ ♪ things are going to be much
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better if we only will shower the people you love with love ♪ ♪ show them the way that you feel ♪ ♪ shower the people you love with love, somehow them the way that you feel feel ♪ ♪ ♪ shower the people you love with love ♪ ♪ show them the way that you feel ♪ ♪ shower the people you love with love ♪ ♪ show them the way that you
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feel ♪ ♪ shower the people you love with love ♪ ♪ show them the way that you feel ♪ ♪ shower the people you love with love ♪ ♪ show them the way that you feel ♪ ♪ i know things are going to be much better if we only will ♪ [ applause ] >> really beautiful moment there, james taylor singing the m.i.t. a cappella group behind him. the song of course "shower the people" and the message
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beautiful as well. shower the people you love with love, show them the way that you feel. sean collier's memorial brought out the sun today here in boston and certainly brought people together. we're going to take a quick break. when we come back we have a lot of news for you. we're monitoring a situation in new orleans. potential tornado damage. we'll look at that. we also have the latest on the investigation here as well as the latest on the ricin letter scare and what's going on with that. we'll take a break first leaving you with the memorial. welcnew york state, where cutting taxes for families and businesses is our business. we've reduced taxes and lowered costs to save businesses more than two billion dollars to grow jobs, cut middle class income taxes to the lowest rate in sixty years, and we're creating tax free zones for business startups. the new new york is working creating tens of thousands of new businesses, and we're just getting started. to grow or start your business
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tornado damage. certainly wind damage, the winds at the airport 60 miles per hour. over 30,000 people without power at this hour. the storm came over the lake across into kenner and down into new orleans proper and still moving down almost to about gretina right now. storm moving to the southeast about 30 miles per hour. right there is the rotation as it travels on eventually toward the northern parts of plaquemines parrish. damage has been reported but most wind damage, power lines down, trees down, 30,000 without poor. >> chad, give us that time window again. for folks down there when does the risk pass? >> the risk passes probably in the next 10 or 15 minutes. it's bell chase, it's gretna and moving away. this continues to push into plaquemines parrish.
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for you northern plaquemines parrish still to worry for another 15 to 20 minutes, take cover there now. >> all right. chad, thank you. everybody, heed the warning, stay safe. we'll monitor the situation afterwards. take a break. next up, why wasn't this -- the bombing suspects on the radar of u.s. investigators? or was the suspect on the radar? we have new information from washington on the investigation when we come back. melia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions... in everything from the best experiences below... to the finest comforts above. we're not simply saluting history... we're making it.
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welcome back to boston. just because investigators think they know who pulled off the boston bombings does not mean this case is closed. months if not years will be spent trying to learn how and why and who else may have played even the smallest part in the alleged crimes of these two suspects. earlier today cnn's wolf blitzer spoke by phone with the former husband of one of the suspects' sisters. he is convinced the brothers had help, if not with the plot itself at least with the mind t mindset. take a listen. >> i believe that there are
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other people involve d. >> when you say other people involved, what does that mean? >> some movement. i mean some extremists, terrorists, not terrorists, but like extremely radical people. i don't want to point out the religion itself because it's a peaceful religion, but there are people who preaching it the wrong way probably. so i believe, yes, there are some people involved. i don't blame the special -- the secret service. i don't blame the fbi, i don't believe in framing. but i do believe that someone preached them -- preached tamerlan so much and this has come in from the mosques or religious groups in boston. i don't believe dagestan is involved in it. >> again, that was one of the
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suspects' ex-brothers-in-law speaking by phone to wolf blitzer from cask stan. i want to bring in cnn's barbara starr now because she has new information on that. it is critically important. barbara, thank you for joining us. the feds keep more than one list of people they need to watch, right? so where did this suspect's name turn up? >> well, chris, what we now know from sources that we've spoken to here in washington and government officials, tamerlan tsarnaev, the older brother, was on two government databases, but that's an important word. databases. these are law enforcement and terrorism databases, not watch lists. what does this all mean? what it means is when the russians came to the u.s. back in 2011 said we have concerns about this guy, look into him, his name was entered into these databases. it becomes a place, a central
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clearinghouse if you will where law enforcement, the intelligence community, can go and look and see what is known. what we now know is the fbi was not able, they say, to come up with any derogatory information about him, so his name never went to the next step, which would be a watch list. a watch list might keep you from being able to fly, to get on an airplane. it would be something that would lead to much more monitoring. what u.s. officials are saying is still they never got enough specific information from the russians about what their concerns were about this man. and they were never able to develop any information on their own. to this day it's our understanding that this poignant's name remains on those databases. the case was essentially closed because they didn't have anything on him, but his name is still on there. a lot of questions in congress about how all of this works of course and whether some of the system needs to be changed,
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chris. >> all right. barbara, thank you very much. is there any other information for us to understand about the investigation right now? any other new developments? >> well, i'm glad you asked. there is a very interesting development. boston being boston we wanted to take note of the fact that the police commissioner ed davis in a radio interview this morning talked about already looking ahead to next year's marathon. made a very interesting comment that they are going to look at the possibility, maybe, of using drones to survey the race route. you know, we saw that infrared video of helicopters being used in the final moments of being able to catch dzhokhar tsarnaev, the wounded younger brother, some really compelling pictures of that infrared video we're showing you again now. the police commissioner saying maybe he'll consider using drones over the race route. it would give the police a real ability to look at a very wide area, put a lot more eyes on the
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race next year. something boston i think is already looking forward to, chris. >> all right, barbara, thank you very much. i know you're going to stay on the investigation because it's so critically important we understand what could have been done differently just like with using drones going forward, we want to be better. thank you for staying on this. appreciate it. now, as we try to get through the investigation of what the fbi could have known but did not, at the same time officials are very much trying to figure out what else is out there in term offense information. so we do know that a u.s. delegation has gone to the dagestan region of russia where they've just wrapped up a long day of q & a with the parents of the suspects. our own nic robertson is there as well. nic, you're monitoring the situation. we have to assume they didn't go up there to hear about their two boys being setup. so what do we know about the context for these conversations? >> well, we know -- the mother
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went in, the father was supposed to go in last night. both of them went into the russian headquarters. this is a building, a five-story building in the center -- >> all right. we're going to come back to nic. obviously he's having some issues over there. the point of that story will be to find out what the u.s. delegation is thinking they can get out of the family to try and move things forward. as we know there's been a lot of curiosity about what family members may have known about what's being explained as a radical change in the older of the two suspects. we'll get back to nic when we can. right now we'll go to break. when we come back a close-up look at the unbelievable destruction in a massive crater left behind in west, texas. you'll remember that fertilizer plant explosion, the concerns about deadly gas. we're going to go live to texas next and find out what the situation is. stay with us. ♪ [ female announcer ] nothing gets you going
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all right. we want to check-in on west, texas now. a massive crater ten feet deep, nearly 100 feet wide, that's what marks ground zero of last week's blast at the texas fertilizer plant that killed 14 people, leveled parts of a small town and now the search for answers is on as investigators try to figure out how it happened. reality of course is setting in for residents. remember, it's a very small
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place, 3,000 about in the city. and they had to evacuate almost half of that. 50 to 60 of their homes were totally decimated by this. so the investigation very important to find out what caused that fertilizer blast. more important is how these people get back on their feet. nearby waco, texas, has been helping out. but as we show you picture there of the blast site and we're waiting for our correspondent shot to get up so we can talk to ed lavandera on the ground there about what's going on, keep them in your hearts and minds because these are people that are going to need our help. for now we're going to leave west, texas live shot and come back to boston, which is also a city in recovery from a very different type of trauma. but it is recovering. boston strong as we say here. and boylston street where the explosions happened now open so people are able to literally start to see through what's going on as this city starts to reopen. cnn's miguel marquez is going to
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give us a look at the site of the bombing nine days later. >> reporter: this is the finish line of the boston marathon. this is where the world saw the events of nine days ago unfold. this is where amazingly enough it's very, very close to the finish line the first bomb exploded. you can see that they've come in today and replaced the cement and the brickwork here so that all the damage from that bomb is now gone. this is the store right 671 boylston street where that first bomb went off. this would have been tamerlan tsarnaev who set this bomb. and on this store today, boston strong." this is the site of the second bombing. police still sensitive about allowing any video to be shot of that site. this is where police say 12 seconds after the first bomb dzhokhar tsarnaev left his bomb. killed that day was 29-year-old krystle campbell, a restaurant
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manager, lu lingzi, a chinese national graduate student at boston university, and martin richard, an 8-year-old boy from the dorchester neighborhood here in boston. this is a memorial set up here in copley square. everything here from the crosses to the teddy bears to the flowers were all gathered up from other parts of boylston street that were closed along the way. this may be the most touching part of all this, the shoes hung along the barrier everywhere along this little memorial here and it's growing. people keep coming by. and it doesn't look like it's going to stop any time soon. miguel marquez, cnn, boston. >> all right. thanks to miguel for that. obviously sneakers the symbol of the marathon. that memorial just over our shoulder there. you see on our screen our ed lavandera. i've got a shot up now from west, texas. ed, thank you very much for joining us. tell us about the situation. >> hey, chris. well, we just returned from our first close-up look at the blast site at that fertilizer center here in the town of west, texas.
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so where investigators have been working for a week now trying to piece together exactly what happened. we were given an up close tour. we got to see that crater, the blast site where this happened, that crater site is about ten feet deep and almost more than 90 feet wide. what is interesting in speaking with investigators from the texas fire marshal's office and also investigators with the department of alcohol, tobacco and firearms, atf, they say they are still trying to figure out what exactly caused the fire that then led to the explosions here that killed 14 people, mostly firefighters and ems officials that raced to the scene there to put out that fire that they're still trying to figure out what caused that fire. and from there they can begin piecing together what might have caused that explosion. but really when you walked up onto this site, chris, the dramatic and powerful nature you could tell just how powerful this blast was. the explosion happened in one of the buildings there that was on the ground. and to give you a sense of just
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how powerful this blast was, that building had a foundation that was about three to four feet of concrete above the ground. all of that was blown apart. and that crater still went ten feet below the ground there. in fact, as we pulled up, chris, we saw chunks of that concrete foundation blown about 100 to 150 yards to the west toward that apartment complex where several people were killed. but inside that crater investigators are going through and trying to create a 3d image of that blast site so they can figure out the blast field, the debris field and start piecing together what might have caused this explosion. so far investigators say they still don't know with certainty what kind of chemicals or materials were inside that building. we got to interview one of the investigators, the atf investigator in charge of this investigation as well as the texas fire marshal investigator in charge of trying to figure out what happened here. listen to a little bit of what they just told us a short while ago. >> that's the focus of the
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investigation right now is the fire. we're trying to find out what caused the fire. that caused the explosion itself. so it's like kelly said earlier like putting puzzle pieces together. reenacting that fire to see what transpired to cause the explosion. >> and, chris, really the most poignant and powerful and sad part of all of this is that the fire trucks that were -- the firefighters and ems officers used to race to this scene, some of them were still there. three firefighters -- fire trucks and an ambulance. two of them were so mangled that it was hard to even make out that they were fire trucks. it was in that area just of maybe 30 feet away from where the explosion happened where the majority of the victims bodies were found. this morning before we got to work there investigators all got together marking a week since this tragedy happened the day started off for these investigators with an honor
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guard from the texas department of public safety playing taps there at the site. they unfurled an american flag and texas flag in honor of the 14 people who died because of this died because of this explosion. chris? >> ed, you know, those first responders giving their lives before that fire would take so many more. such sacrifice there. and just a bullet point the headlines, that blast was so powerful we'll remember it registered as an earthquake. and they were intelligent early on and treating it as a crime scene. and now investigators are going to benefit as they figure it out. here's the last thing for you, ed. what do the people down there need? are you able to figure out what kind of resource communities there are to put it on the website so people can donate and help folks get back on their feet. >> well, they're rather overwhelmed with donations with clothing and water and that sort of thing asking for cash donations at this point. a lot of the neighborhoods leading up to that blast site have been reopened and people
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are able to kind of go in and out and begin piecing together what they can. we spent some time yesterday with one family that was going through and cleaning up their belongings and they were probably about 300, 400 yards away from the blast site. but there is still a significant chunk of the neighborhood just to the west of the blast site. that is the area that took the brunt of this explosion that is still cordoned off. those people are still not able to go back and check on their belongings. . a lot of people are going through the process of figuring out housing for the foreseeable future. many of the homes will have to be torn down and rebuilt. the damage is extensive. >> all right, ed, thanks. anything you can figure out about trustworthy organizations taking in money for people? let's figure it out and put it on the website. we'll check in with you soon. we're going to take a break now. when we come back, the big ricin letter scare investigation. you remember it, letters to the president, to other members of congress.
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the investigation. they had their man, he was an elvis impersonator. he's free, the case dismissed. a lot of unanswered questions. only one man can answer them and he's standing by at cnn right now waiting to be interviewed. when we come back, you'll talk to the man who was known as the ricin letter bomber, now he is free. you'll talk to mr. curtis when we come back.
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well, this has turned into such a bizarre case. a major turn in the investigation of those ricin laced letters sent to president obama and other officials. the mississippi elvis impersonator arrested now free. and on the air with us live right now. his first on-camera interview, paul curtis says he never even heard of ricin. he thought it was rice they were talking about. he says i don't even eat rice. he's joined by his attorney. thank you to both of you for being here. can you both hear me well? >> yes, sir. >> yes, chris. >> you're good? all right. so let's begin with a big question here. great. as far as we know right now, is there any connection between you and what was done with these ricin letters? any at all? >> none whatsoever, sir.
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your understanding, are investigators completely free of your client as someone implicated in this situation they have not given clear word. what is your understanding? >> we are, in fact, i suspect with someone this morning involved in the investigation with the prosecutors and actually had made arrangements, i haven't even had a chance to speak with kevin about it yet that we are actually ready to assist them in as far as what we know what kevin knows, if there's anything that might help them, but i do believe that they have absolutely, even though they may not have publicly said that, that they'd realize what we have known all along is that kevin was absolutely in no way connected with these letters. >> okay. so let's go to the beginning. when they came to you, what was the explanation for why they believe that you were the man? why did investigators believe it was you?
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>> well, when they came to me and i was arrested, it was like a scene out of the movie. they didn't explain anything. they just kept saying you know what you've done and don't move don't resist, and i had to set my coat down, they allowed me to do that. but you're talking about homeland security, secret service, fbi, so many vehicles in my neighborhood. i've never seen anything like it. it was in a state of shock. the best way i can explain it. and i was trying to catch my breath and how am i going to get my son to church? and they're like, no, no, you're not going to church, you're going down to the federal building where you'll be asked questions. if we go in that house, are we going to find anything connected to ricin? and i go, well, i said i don't eat rice and i don't have any
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rice in the house. and they say, no, you know what we mean, ricin, a deadly chemical. i said, here's my key, you look all you want. you won't find anything in there but a goldfish and music equipment and awards and things. and a couch. and he's like, yeah, whatever. turn around, put your hands on your car, and they took my phone, my wallet, which i still haven't gotten my phone back. i haven't been able to call anybody. and never saw them enter my house. they started tapie ining it off interrogating all my neighbors and i begun to meet my neighbors and get to know them. but to answer your question, i knew nothing, i still don't know a lot about it. you cook it somehow and they vaporize it and it becomes more deadly. and i learned this from youtube.com at 4:00 this morning. >> all right, well, don't worry about investigating that anymore. they'll be taken care of by the
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government. you get introduced by your neighbors as someone who is a letter bomb suspect, which is never great for relations around the community. and you wind up being taken into custody, and how p intense did it get in there with investigators? what were the stakes? what were they doing to you and saying to you? >> they were nice. the homeland security officer, the capital police lady from washington and a gentleman from the fbi -- do i mention any names? i think it was officer grant, agent grant, very respectful, there was only one individual in that room that wassa agitated wh me. and he was shaking and very nervous. i think he knew that we don't have enough on this guy, guys, i don't want to compromise my job, i've got a job to do. but i think he'd been in it long enough over the years he felt some form of uncertainty. i'm an impersonator, i've
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impersonated thousands of cartoon characters and people. so i'm studying his human behavior and picking up on the shakiness and the nervousness and the friction in his voice and how he can't look me in the eye and he wanted me to sign papers to release medical records for my whole life and medical records to him. and i said, sir, my ex-wife is in criminal justice, she wants to be a lawyer and we were just talking the other night over dinner and she told me don't ever sign anything if you're in a situation -- unless your lawyer's there. i said, sir, can i have an attorney here present? and he said, absolutely not. then i'm not signing. he said well, that's just fine. and it became a good guy, bad guy. officer grant, he was good guy, and this guy's a bad guy. and the lady in the back, wonderful, so polite from washington. and they treated me like gold, but they intensely interrogated me for hours and it was nerve wracking. i can't even express my inside nerves were going to come out of